Adrian Rogers is a False Teacher?

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A few months ago I was “witnessed” to by a Calvinist on our youtube channel.  He watched a video I uploaded entitled “Predestined for Hell?  Absolutely Not!” by Adrian Rogers.  He proceeded to tell me that Adrian Rogers preaches an “Arminian false gospel of free-will” and therefore he preaches a “false Christ” and “false god.”

This Calvinist then accused ME from the start of being an Arminian and I preach a false gospel because I believe a sinner must “make a decision” to follow Christ.  I told him I wasn’t an Arminian but that didn’t seem to sway him.  It was as if he was having a conversation with someone else and I happened to be reading it.  This is not the first time this has happened to me when speaking with Calvinists.  He then started listing verses to support his view.  The interpretations he gave contradict other verses, but that didn’t seem to bother him in the least!

Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

Repeatedly he tried to tell me what I believe and why, without asking me.  We weren’t having a conversation, it was more like him telling me what I believe and why I believe it.  He told me since I believed I made a “decision for Christ” he concluded I was “prideful” and I was really a “Roman Catholic” without all the bells and whistles.  I told him I grew up Catholic for the first 20 years of my life.  I went to Catholic grade school, middle school, high school, attended Mass several times a week, the whole thing.  So for him to make a connection between “deciding to follow Christ” and Roman Catholicism was a massive stretch.

When I told him this he said “Like a Roman Catholic you believe you must COOPERATE with God to be saved.  God is waiting on you to decide.”  The cooperation that Roman Catholics do is far different than making a personal decision to follow Christ.  In the bible God asks sinners to make a decision to follow Him over and over again.  In fact Christ asks sinners to consider the costs of following him which involves making a personal decision.

Luke 14:26-33
26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. 27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple. 28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it– 29 lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish.’ 31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? 32 Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace. 33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple

Faith is a Work?

He said I believe God does 99% of the work of salvation and I must contribute the other 1% by “making my own decision” to follow Christ to make salvation complete.  This is not the “gospel” he said.  You see, he was suggesting “faith” is a “work.”  I repeatedly told him the bible teaches “faith is not a work”, that “faith is counted as righteousness” but that didn’t seem to matter in his strategy he used for witnessing to me.  It was as if he was preconditioned to give certain responses to my arguments without first thinking about them.

I told him the nature of saving faith is an admission “that I cannot save myself and I need a savior to save me from judgement.”  In fact all of the non-Calvinists I know admit they cannot save themselves.  This is what repenting is…its a “change of mind” from what you used to think (I’m good enough to go to heaven) to “I’m a sinner needing a savior.”  But he ignored that and kept telling me I have pride because “I” believed the gospel.

Christ died for you?

I asked him this question, “Do you tell sinners Christ died for them?”  He said, “No, thats not part of the gospel.  The Apostles never did that.”  Calvinists would not tell a sinner “Christ died for you” since they believe Christ only died for some people, not everyone.

Telling sinners “Christ died for you” is not part of the gospel?  The Apostles never said that?  Yes they did.  Here Paul is talking to Christians telling them what gospel he preached to them BEFORE THEY WERE CHRISTIANS.  Its the same gospel PAUL RECEIVED he said.

1 Corinthians 15:1-3
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you–unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures…

Omitting “Christ died for your sins” from the gospel is making the gospel ineffective.  Its the “goodness of God”  that leads people to repentance (Romans 2:4).  Its the fact that God loved a sinner FIRST that is the goodness of God and if you don’t believe Christ died for you His love will not be shown to break the sinners hard heart.

I told him Christ died for everyone including the false teachers in 2 Peter 2.

2 Peter 2:1
1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

He responded with “those are the people who came out of Egypt.”  I told him “while it is true these are the people who came out of Egypt Christ died for them.”  He then said, “Peter was talking to Christians.”  I told him, “while it is true Peter was talking to Christians he is telling them Christ died for the false teachers.”

He then ignored that verse, and many others, and went on.

Stop Rejecting God’s Sovereignty!

He seemed obsessed in making sure God gets all the credit for everything that happens, which I thought was strange since if he truly believes God is sovereign in all things than it doesn’t matter if he convinces me or not.  God is already sovereign!  Do you suppose God will be “more or less sovereign” if I believe him?  I thought God wasn’t controlled by what men do?

He proceeded to tell me God controls all things, and I am denying His sovereignty in salvation.  I pointed out to him if God is sovereign in ALL THINGS its impossible for me to deny His sovereignty, because if I could, God isn’t sovereign!

I told him if what he says is true than my unbelief in what he says is ordained by God.  Its not “my fault” I can’t believe him.  He already told me I don’t have free will so how can I deny God’s sovereignty?  The conversation was very confusing and thats because his ideas were contradictory.

I asked him “What difference does it make if Adrian Rogers is a false teacher?  You believe God is sovereign over all things which means God’s elect will be saved and you believe the unelect will be damned.  No amount of false teaching will lead people away or closer to salvation will it?”

When I told him these things it didn’t seem to register that Calvinism is contradictory and it should be discarded.  It was as if his mind was held captive by a philosophical system created by a man named John Calvin.  It has to be…it takes many years of training to be deluded into thinking contradictory doctrines are true.

Bad Witness

Don’t get me wrong, he was a nice enough guy, he seemed concerned.  The problem is his witness to me was confusing, he was contradicting himself, and he was telling me I wasn’t saved when in his own doctrine you cannot know who the elect are!

His strategy seemed to be like this…assume what I believe and why I believe it without asking…quote verses and interpet them according to a system of theology called Calvinism…if I don’t believe his interpretation quote more…if I give verses which contradict ignore them and quote more… then tell me what I believe (when in fact I don’t)…and then finally determine I am apostate because God hasn’t caused me to believe him, pat himself on the back for persevering in the faith and move on.

He seemed to be concerned about me but only in regards to my agreement that God does everything.  So am I saved if I admit “I” don’t believe in Christ because God makes me believe?  Is that the gospel?  My admission saves me?  But isn’t that a “work” if my admission saves me?  God is waiting for me to “admit?”  But how can I admit if I don’t have free will as he told me?  My admission is the hinge by which salvation swings?

It was a very strange witnessing encounter (I was the one being witnessed to) and I pray he will come to a knowledge of the truth…the truth that God is not a God of contradiction (Calvinism)  and human beings are loved by God because He sacrificed His Son for them when they didn’t deserve it.

  1. “All things that happen in all the world at any time and in all history—whether inorganic matter, vegetation, animal, man or angels (both good and evil ones– come to pass because God ordained them, Even sin- the fall of the devil from heaven, the fall of Adam, and every evil thought, word, and deed in all of history.” Edwin Palmer, The Five Points of Calvinism, 1999

    “…God desired for man to fall into sin…God created sin.” R.C. Sproul, Jr., Almighty Over All

    It’s funny how Calvinists treat “Sovereignty”. They say that God can only be sovereign if He causes “everything” that happens, even sin. To me that is actually limiting God’s sovereignty. To me because God is sovereign He is powerful enough to allow us to have free will and not be threatened by it. Reformed Theology and Calvinism teach that God’s sovereignty would be threatened if we had free will.

    Free will acknowledges that God is active in our lives and that He does intervene and cause certain things to happen as evidenced by the prophecies in the scriptures. Other things that happen to us are a result of choices we make. While yet other events happen because of sin that is in the world, we can’t control the events, we can control how we react to them. Free will teaches that because God is sovereign and active in our lives He can use any event for our benefit, even those events He does not directly cause to occur.

    Even though God is sovereign He did not prevent man from sinning or the effects of sin. Having the capability to sin doesn’t make us greater than the Creator which is what Calvinists claim if we have free will. That He could have prevented sin but didn’t doesn’t weaken God’s position with respect to sovereignty and neither does allowing us free will. God allowed His perfect creation to become corrupted, but rather than holler “Cut!” and make us do the scene over God allowed His creation to continue.

    Why did God allow sin in His creation? The answer is that to prevent sin and its effects would be to prevent free will. Therefore the fact that sin and its consequences exists is proof that we have been given free will. Otherwise God would either have created a perfect world and kept it perfect or he would have prevented the effects of sin from marring His creation once we messed it up.

    Free will does not negate God’s sovereign will, nor does it deny that God has a plan for mankind. That God allows us free will is demonstrated by His paying the price for sin for us all. All we have to do is accept Him.

    I have been told by my Reformed Theology friends that since God is sovereign over all it is presumptuous for us to call anything evil. They say nothing is really evil because God created it, they say we just don’t understand God and His purposes. They tell me since we cannot know God’s mind and God causes all things as part of His sovereign plan, then nothing is really evil, there is no difference between good and evil. Yet God’s sovereignty is not threatened by free will and He tells us we can distinguish between good and evil.

    “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil” Isaiah 5:20

    Say to them, “‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways!” Ezekiel 33:11

  2. John Gregory says:

    I just told a dear calvinist that calvinism is not Biblical! He accused me of being intolerant and vitriolic!
    I only asked him about a god that would damn millions to hell before they were even born, if he thought
    that that was a God of Love. I asked him other questions for which he had no answers.
    He told me that I had no understanding concerning biblical Hermaneutics. I told him that I could
    show him using biblical hermaneutics that calvinism was not only false but heretical. He left, mumbling
    to himself. I told him as he stole away that I would be praying that my god of grace and love would
    set him free from his bondage to calvinism and set him free to the true grace of God.
    They (the calvinists) are a cult! We must witness, love, and pray for them to be set free.
    God bless, John Gregory

  3. admin says:

    Absolutely! They have moved away from the simplicity of Christ into a philosophical system known as Calvinism. His lack of answers is common. Thank you for your thoughts and always be diligent with gentleness and respect.

  4. Usagi says:

    Very well written. Agree 100%.
    The most dangerous device of the Devil facing Christianity today is Calvinism – it comes in the guise of “Christianity” when it teaches nothing of the sort. that said, due to professions of faith, and repentance, there are many people who are now Calvinist who were saved. Just because they became misguided since their conversion does not “undo” the Gift of God.

  5. Arthur says:

    Not only does the Bible say ONLY the FATHER IN HEAVEN will know the EXACT time He will send Jesus back to retrieve His foowrlels ALSO, did you all realize that this Harold Camping guy has had false predictions before? I guess the last one was in 1994? He also says that the Holy Spirit LEFT (was removed from)us in 1988! We all know this is FALSE! Please guys, don’t be so easily deceived. It only HURTS your faith when you believe lies they don’t happen! I want to see Harolds face on Sunday.

  6. Iype Oommen says:

    Calvin had a murderous spirit within him. Just do a Google search for more details.
    Can any Christian in his right mind believe that the Holy Spirit was working in the heart of Calvin?

    I don’t understand why people are following a very dangerous theology proposed by a non Christian

  7. Stephen John says:

    Most people talk about “Calvinism’ and do not even know what it really is , they have made assumptions based on what others say about it ad nauseum etc etc..from one mouth to the next. Calvin did not dub anything called ‘Calvinism’. Might try reading some of John Owens’s works – some of the comments in this post are utterly ridiculous and do not see how they have anything to do with the title of this post. Adrian Rogers? Just heard him on the radio and after hearing 15 minutes of bantering secular psycholigisms searched ‘adrian rogers false teacher’ just to see what others are saying about him. But that was all I was hearing from him – teaching has gone in so many schools from the Facts about The Faith that is in Christ into dissecting humanistic thought patterns in so many ways – I’ve gone back to reading writings of some of the Puritans who had a lot of it right but not ‘so called Perfectly’…with a blend of those who under what Grace really is. As for the guy I heard on the radio – he comes with the flavor of the Crystal Cathedral – I think people are in love and blinded with his voice more than anything else because what he actually has said in the few occasions I’ve heard him had very little substance. False teacher? I don’t know – maybe just not a very good one – if he preaches Christ Jesus is not LORD and Salvation is’ not’ ” by Grace and not by works that no man may boast” – then he would be closer to a ‘false’ teacher – though I’m not exactly sure how that was to be understood when Paul and others made those letters – that might have referred more to the Gnostic thinking and the Romanology of the time that continues to this day – romanticism and superstition does flow through the catholic church so freely the entire community has been blinded from generation to generation .

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